Curse

Darksun · Dec 21, 2006, 09:15 PM // 21:15

Bonus items were great when you could mod them. They looked cool, had decent stats and were actually USEFUL when you could customize them into your own personal weapons. It was nice to have something for getting a Collectors or pre-order that was good for use in-game. Now they are buffers for heros (untill you can get them a really good weapon) and a novelty for lower-mid level chartacers.

With the exception of a few of them Shield, holy/fire focus, I don't think even my heros will use them for long. At any rate, the bonus items used to be great. Now... I don't even use em much any more. It would be nice to make my bonus items "mine" and change it to fit my play style. As it is now, it's just kinda .. meh.

Quid Pro Quo · Dec 21, 2006, 09:18 PM // 21:18

Yeah we gave Anet extra money because we support them they could atleast let us mod and dye the weapons we earned for our money.

/Signed

Retribution X · Dec 21, 2006, 09:19 PM // 21:19

/agree

I like my bonus items from the GOTY ESP the skins, but the mods really suck.

jbettone · Dec 21, 2006, 11:04 PM // 23:04

I bought GOTY pack last night and the first thing I tried to do--Mod them doh!

/signed

Nickhimself · Dec 21, 2006, 11:09 PM // 23:09

Who cares? Get new items for your heroes. The bonus items are there because Anet felt like saying "Hey, here's some free stuff to tide you over until you start finding real items." not "This will give you enough weaponry that you'll never have to spend that hard earned money on anything other than skills and armor."

Free is free is free is free. They gave you those items. GoTY didn't cost more than the regular edition did, and if you bought the GoTY for the sole purpose of getting some free items, then I pity you. You wasted 40 or 50 dollars on something that you can easily get from a collector in Factions.

/notsigned

Sasuke The Betrayer · Dec 21, 2006, 11:12 PM // 23:12

The GoTY was only $5, so it was totally worth it. If they give you free items, they're for using, and + they are uber skins lol. I'd like to use my nevermore flatbow with mods I WANT.

/sign

Quid Pro Quo · Dec 21, 2006, 11:24 PM // 23:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickhimself

Free is free is free is free. They gave you those items. GoTY didn't cost more than the regular edition did, and if you bought the GoTY for the sole purpose of getting some free items, then I pity you. You wasted 40 or 50 dollars on something that you can easily get from a collector in Factions.

/notsigned

So... its okay to spend a little bit at the collectors in factions and get a weapon I can use as long as I want but its NOT okay to spend some REAL money to support Anet, get weapons, and use them as long as I want?

Wow that sounds kind of hypocritical if you ask me.

Both were not free just used different currency. People make it sound like the bonus items have no cost at all and thats not true.

Nickhimself · Dec 21, 2006, 11:31 PM // 23:31

Not, it doesn't sound hypocritical at all.

I have the GoTY edition. I use the bonus items on most of my heroes. If I feel like they aren't good enough, what do I do? I wait until something drops and then mod it with what I have lying around and give it to my hero.

For example, on my warrior, Koss is equipped with a gold Req 11 Fellblade, 14^50 and +26 hp. Goren has a Req 9 Gemstone Axe with 18% sundering and +5 armor.

Both have the Adamantine Shield from Margonite Masks (-5 20%, +30) that you can get from the collector in the GoM.

Before that, they both used the Sundering Rhino's Charge. Did I complain? Nope. I adapted through gaming.

Now, did I wonder why they took the ability to mod those weapons away? Sure. Everyone who had them did. I'd be a liar if I said I didn't. But, did I really, honestly care? Nope. You shouldn't care that much either. Go play for a little while and you'll find something better than a Tiger's Roar or a Poisonous Nevermoor Flatbow.

Also, that's Prophecies level gear. Look at the NF stuff. Fiery Sunspear of Warding? Icy Soulbreaker of Enchanting? both have inherent damage bonuses, AND a prefix / suffix.

Hell, I have better scythes but still use the IS for farming, and you can bet General Morghan is running around with that /bonus shield and spear.

Also, to reply directly to your post. No, I never said go spam Kaineng looking for collector's items to turn-in. Go farm them. Then, not only are they free, but you'll make a little money while you're at it.

Darksun · Dec 22, 2006, 01:04 AM // 01:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickhimself

Who cares? Get new items for your heroes. The bonus items are there because Anet felt like saying "Hey, here's some free stuff to tide you over until you start finding real items." not "This will give you enough weaponry that you'll never have to spend that hard earned money on anything other than skills and armor."

Yes, because all good mods grow out of the ground and are free. You're right! the bonus items are WAY too powerful to pay $5 for!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickhimself

Free is free is free is free. They gave you those items. GoTY didn't cost more than the regular edition did, and if you bought the GoTY for the sole purpose of getting some free items, then I pity you. You wasted 40 or 50 dollars on something that you can easily get from a collector in Factions.

acctually. Seeing as how it cost MORE money for the upgrade to GOTY ed. it's not free, free free.
I'm an artist. I like ART. that's why I buy games and that's why I got the Collectors edition. And that's why I got the GOTY ed. Because the ART for the new weapons is cool. I'd like to USE things without having a negative to how I fight. I don't care if the Items are blank, inscribable weapons, I would like to use them and customize them cuz they look cool.

You also haven't explained (at all) how making them mod-able makes them more powerful. Because you can't. I have collectors items all over the place for my Heros. I would still have to mod my GOTY stuff to make them equivalent. Which is acctually HARDER to do than get collectors items. I just want the skins.

I'm sorry that you don't appreciate skins & art, but for those of us who do, we'd like the ability to build are heros and characters in our own unique way. As it is now, using a hammer that has a Rhino head means you have to give up any health bonus on a weapon that allready negates the +16 armor you get from a shield. Sounds silly to me..

Quid Pro Quo · Dec 22, 2006, 04:23 AM // 04:23

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Originally Posted by Nickhimself

Not, it doesn't sound hypocritical at all.
Also, to reply directly to your post. No, I never said go spam Kaineng looking for collector's items to turn-in. Go farm them. Then, not only are they free, but you'll make a little money while you're at it.

Your post does nothing to disprove why what you said is as horribly hypocritical as it is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickhimself

not "This will give you enough weaponry that you'll never have to spend that hard earned money on anything other than skills and armor."

Your saying that its not okay to pay for max req. 9 bonus items with real money to support Anet and expensive upgrades to make them useful for as long as you wish to use them but it IS okay to buy max, 15^50 req9 weapons at weapon smiths in kaineng for very cheap fake money that does nothing to help Anet and upgrade them and use them for the entire game.

Thats basically the definition of hypocritcal. I mean your still paying for the items and the mods so you still have to spend money on your weapons its just one way actually helps Anet out.

puteh · Dec 22, 2006, 04:36 AM // 04:36

/signed

they should make it modable

Taala · Dec 22, 2006, 08:30 AM // 08:30

/signed

I won't be buying that upgrade otherwise.

Mad King Corn · Dec 22, 2006, 10:00 AM // 10:00

/signed

I will buy if they can be modded!

Asuka Raimei · Dec 22, 2006, 11:54 AM // 11:54

/signed

I want to be able to mod my lovely hammer

Maxiemonster · Dec 22, 2006, 12:06 PM // 12:06

Yes please!

I wonder why they removed this option in the first place...

Slainster · Dec 22, 2006, 12:11 PM // 12:11

/signed would make them way more useful

Fender · Dec 22, 2006, 02:09 PM // 14:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad King Corn

/signed

I will buy if they can be modded!

same
(need longer post...)

glountz · Dec 22, 2006, 03:25 PM // 15:25

/signed
Love them, will buy GOTY for my second account when moddable.

Darksun · Dec 22, 2006, 05:35 PM // 17:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quid Pro Quo

Thats basically the definition of hypocritcal. I mean your still paying for the items and the mods so you still have to spend money on your weapons its just one way actually helps Anet out.

owned.

broodijzer · Dec 22, 2006, 06:17 PM // 18:17

/signed
Don't see why not. what's the use of cool skins if you don't fight with them because the stats are crap?